Visa always has been an issue for me. I got the Chinese visa 50 minutes before my flight time. I applied for the Indian visa at very last moment expecting no reply from embassy but fortunately I got both visas. I applied for U.S visa right on time or before time but I didn’t get it
Being the Regional Student Representative (RSR) of IEEE, one of my prime responsibilities is to attend the student activities committee meeting held at U.S, I was supposed to be one of the participants but I couldn’t get through the visa.
I was interviewed on 15th February 2008 for the first time at U.S Embassy Islamabad. I spent PKR 30,000/= on this trip and took one and half day off from office. Before Interview could take place, I had to be in five queues before (Ticket Queue, Bus Queue, Security Check Queue, Embassy Entrance Queue and Finally Waiting Queue for Interview). It took around 3 hours for me to reach to the counselor officer. Mind it, I was not confused at any point and was confident enough to get the visa. While I was in waiting queue, I saw one person being rejected, I said “Damn, how bad this person would be feeling, he is rejected on the spot” unknowingly this will happen to me as well. And here comes my number, I went to the window, she asked several questions starting from my birth to till date and I replied to them to the best of my knowledge and everything was nothing but truth. After Interview she gave me a paper and passport back saying “Sorry, you are rejected, but it’s not permanent refusal, you can re-apply”. My question was “what’s the reason?” she said “Everything is written on this document”. After a long debate she said “It’s your organization”. I was seriously startled. I went outside I saw the document very carefully, nothing in specific was written on that page but that document seemed to be general purpose. I was pissed and called IEEE authorities and told them the whole story. They recommended me to re-apply. I re-applied for the visa on 25th Feb 2008, in the mean while IEEE authorities faxed some documents to embassy about the authenticity of the organization.
Second time I am again in Islamabad taking one and half day off from office. Again 5 long queues, this time I went a early because I wanted to interviewed in good mood. Here comes my number and following conversation took place in between me and counseling officer (C.O).
Me: “Good Morning Sir”
C.O: “Good Morning”
C.O: “After looking at my documents, Sir this is second time in the month you are re-applying, so what is the change in you”
Me: “There is no change in me, however this time I have more documents with me to prove the authenticity of my organization and they have also sent you dozen of faxes”
C.O: “Sorry Sir, Your visa is rejected again; he gave me the passport and same paper back”
Me: “Could you please tell me the reason”
C.O: “Everything is written on this paper”
Me: “Friend, I have read this paper 10 times and I don’t find anything specific, everything is general. What’s the main reason? What should I tell to my organization?”
C.O: “Sir, Please refer to the paper”
Me: “See, I have seen this paper earlier and I know nothing is written specifically on it. Why don’t you tell me the reason? You don’t like my face? You have some other reservations with me?”
C.O: “No Sir, It’s not like that, It’s the over all situation of you”
Me: “Overall situation. Financial / physical or ….?”
C.O: “Sir, Interview is over, Thank You and he switched off the microphone”.
Me: “Taking my stuff and giving him terrible look”
Causes / Observation in two visits / Comments by Friends
- U.S Visa rejection ratio in Pakistan is 8:2, meaning 8 are being rejected out of 10.
- A pure U.S national was taking the interview in Urdu, that last for 20 seconds and old lady who wanted to see her son was rejected
- 500 to 1000 people are interviewed every day at Islamabad, Pakistan
- I was rejected for the visa because I didn’t take the bath that day ![]()
- U.S guys has limit of issuing visa, probably they approached crossed it that day.
- Mood of your interviewer must be off.
- Second time you were rejected because you hadn’t enough time to get the security clearance.
- Your doesn’t look like a person who should go to U.S ![]()
- Simply bad luck
- In case of U.S visa, more important is luck NOT Interview.
Disclaimer:
Whatever is written below is my personal opinion, others may have different. All are the facts to the best of my knowledge and observations.
March 30, 2008 at 7:24 pm |
tu ne banday ki le li hogi
simple
March 30, 2008 at 7:27 pm |
@ Ammar:
nahen bhai, wahan pe mein bilkul shareef dikh raha thha
Pahle Izzat se baat ki, jab us ne reject kya toh mera haq banta hai us ki lena
March 30, 2008 at 8:28 pm |
“It’s the over all situation of you” Ha ha ha
Perhaps…they were referring to your financial, physical and more than nething else MENTAL condition
March 31, 2008 at 9:17 am |
@ Fariha:
No, they didn’t check my records with hyderabad mental hospital, so they were not sure
I hope you didn’t told them about me on phone
March 31, 2008 at 11:08 am |
Ah.. kia yaad dila diya tum nay
How can i forget my day at US Visa Office, buss sirf pant choor di thi
March 31, 2008 at 11:36 am |
@ Ali:
Kya ho gaya Ali….?
Did they reject you as well?? Why were you going? What was the reason behind rejection, did they tell you anything?
April 2, 2008 at 2:43 pm |
such a bad luck
yeah i think they have some cotaa system for issuing visa
par IEEE ki authnticity reject kar di is ka bara dukh hoa
April 6, 2008 at 10:44 am |
Maybe third time strike lucky
April 6, 2008 at 11:32 am |
@ Sumair:
Yeah, Its really sad, they should have done some objection on me
not on IEEE
@ Lubna:
Second time I was recommended by IEEE but they didn’t ask me third time to do it
. I was in the hope that later part of this year I will attend the second SAC meeting of the year at USA but fortunately / un-fortunately that is going to happen in Quebec, Canada this time. I hope I will get the visa for Canada at least …..!
April 12, 2008 at 4:54 am |
I really appreciate your courage to talk and laugh about it, thumbs up.
April 12, 2008 at 5:21 am |
@ Salman:
Welcome to my blog
And this is the least I could do
. I mean I have written this to let others know about the behavior of US Visas for Pakistanis and I am laughing because I can’t do anything about it
April 18, 2008 at 5:43 pm |
well may be people must be soothing u but i have some techincal facts to support the idea of lubna baji.
Considering the fact that you ahve given that the ratio of people getting the visa is 8:2… ur 2 is gone…. now its time for ur 8… the game is ur hand. By d way yeah mere funds na dilwane ki condition mein tujhye bad dua lagi hai…
April 20, 2008 at 2:16 am |
@ Avinash:
What are those technical facts friend?
And Yeah, Your bad dua :@ Kamine Insan, You must have got your funds by now and still crying …. I will try you face issues / problems while going to India for GINI meeting
May 4, 2008 at 12:28 pm |
Yaar tujhe tou visa de kar reject kia thaa … aur mujhe tou immigrant Visa de kar reject kia hai … Bas abb tou … mujhe tou galiaa denay ka moooqa bhi nahi diya
May 6, 2008 at 4:09 am |
I was a recent visitor to the embassy myself, but fortunately I was among the few who DID get the visa. I did feel sorry for a lot of people who were rejected, but more or less it was their own fault. Your case is pretty different, its among those that get rejected for no apparent reason :S
Perhaps I’ll do a post of my own on the topic some day
May 6, 2008 at 5:42 am |
@ Raza:
Welcome to my blog
. Congratulations for getting the visa.
Yes, you are right. I do agree that in 70% cases person himself/herself makes the mistake but there are 30% people who are being rejected for no reason. Well I am still angry on that consular who rejected the visa and I missed the opportunity.
May 13, 2008 at 10:05 am |
baba… baat dil pe nahin lena ka this is personal thing and dont migle it with professional (gini meeting)… It would have been in my favor as well if u had got visa… ofcourse u would brought chocolates from there for me……
vesy kahin yeah kuch bure karmon ki saza to nahin… ? think think…
May 13, 2008 at 12:59 pm |
@ Avinash:
Haram khor, tu mere hath char … mein teri waat maroon ga…!
May 25, 2008 at 7:14 am |
Hi Om,
I have been trying to make US-based IEEE staff and volunteers more aware of what difficulties non-US volunteers need to face because when we attend meetings it’s not just packing an overnight bag and hopping on a domestic flight. (A few months ago I just sent someone a very lengthy email telling them why they can’t just announce a meeting less than a month before it’s supposed to be held and expect us to be able to deal with it!)
But your story is even beyond my experience (as an Australian I have visa waiver status with the US, Canada and many other countries). Hope to catch up with you in Canada!
May 25, 2008 at 2:38 pm |
@ Helene:
Good to see your comment. Yes, I am also trying to make some efforts in popularizing IEEE in Pakistan as others don’t face such difficulties, I think It will help for sure.
I hope to be in Canada but after that US incident, My confidence level has gone down drastically, but I will surely give it a try
September 28, 2008 at 5:06 pm |
canada ka try maar le, easy hai
January 6, 2009 at 5:01 pm |
I was interviewed for US citizenship in October 08. The interviewer specifically asked me if I had ieee membership, as if it was a bad thing. I don’t have it. just an fyi.
January 7, 2009 at 7:46 am |
@joim-park:
I am really glad to know this. Did this interview took place in Pakistan?
January 7, 2009 at 7:24 pm |
no, in america.
January 7, 2009 at 7:38 pm |
Understandable…!
Situation is very different in Pakistan as compared to America…!
May 31, 2009 at 4:48 am |
Well if you are geniune visitor, they will always issue you a visa. I have never been rejected for US Visa.
I got my tourist visa B1/B2 first time when i was 18 six months only ,didn’t traveled on that, went back to embassy with a sad face. They issued a new visa to me this times for 5 years. visited once and came back.
Again applied for Visitors visa got it again and in the same month i applied for the student visa got that too. so front and back i have like 4 visas stamped.
June 1, 2009 at 8:38 pm |
@ Sameer:
Its good to hear from you.
I am wondering, how do you define geniune visitor?